Surly Ogre: Bikepacking & Dirt Road Tourer Review
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Having been away from home for almost 7 months, its nice to get the occasional email from people back home. Shona’s email tells me of Keep Pedalling’s birthday party and celebrations.
Over a year ago I had bitten the bullet and bought the frame and forks for my bike build whilst Rich, Shona and I worked on the final aspects of the bike build.
Its perhaps remiss of me not to mention the bike I am riding given we have now covered almost 5,000 happy kilometres together.
Prelude
Like any bike purchase there are a myraid of options out there, almost too many.Â
One of the key decisions in whittling down the options was the ability to run a Rohloff hub, an expensive and mystical German internal gear hub. For many the sheer cost of this item omits it from many bike builds but I was thinking of a simple life on the road and perhaps something that I would move from bike to bike as time wore on. As Rich puts it “A posh mans single speed”.
The more I searched the more I kept coming back to the Surly brand, simple steel frames with a nice geometry and well thought out set of braze ons giving you options to run racks, disk brakes and mostly importantly Rohloff compatible.
Torn between the Troll and Ogre models I fired off an email to Cass who had recently migrated from the Troll to the Ogre and as ever a swift well reasoned response came back. Go for the Ogre!
Build
With so many other things going on before the start of this trip sourcing the components for the build and putting everything together was the last thing I needed on my plate.
Keep Pedalling came highly recommended and with a stock of slightly left of centre bikes they had just the thing I was looking.
A set of emails went back and forth discussing the trip, the build and then I made the trip over to Manchester to swing my leg over the right size frame. In the time we had been emailing a demo bike with a similar spec had been built and so I found myself test riding an Ogre around Manchester’s Northern Quarter.
For a Yorkshireman there were no tears when it came to the eventual parting of the purse strings. I knew I was in safe hands with Rich and Shona.
Spec
Frame & Forks | Surly Ogre |
Wheels | Mavic TN719 with Sapim Spokes |
Drivetrain | Rohloff Speedhub |
Brakes | Avid BB7 |
Front Hub | Hope Pro 2 |
Chainset | Middleburn X-Type |
Bottom Bracket | Hope Ceramic |
Headset | Hope |
Stem | Thomson Elite X4 |
Bars | Jones Loop Bar |
Grips | Ergon GP1 Biokork |
Seatpost | Thomson Elite |
Saddle | Brooks Swift |
Pedals | Wellgo Flats |
Tyres | Schwalbe |
Rack – Front | Salsa Minimalist |
Rack – Rear | Tubus Cargo Evo |
Pretrip
Despite best intentions I only rode the Ogre a handful of times before leaving for the Himalayas. On local single track it proved to stable and great at climbing, although the heft and clunk of the Rohloff was telling for the first few rides.
Having recently finished a set of physio after sustaining a trapped ulna nerve during Trans Nepal, I swapped out the Salsa Pro Moto bars that we specced the bike with and replaced them with a Jones Loop Bar to offer a greater variety of hand positions.
Himalayas
During my time in the Himalayas I used a Wildcat handlebar harness, Carradice saddlebag and saddle bag support, Revelate Designs framebag and Salsa Anything cages.
The Carradice Expedition saddlebag support suffered a stress fracture at the weld as I left the Spiti Valley, due to its aluminium construction it was impossible to weld in India and this was replaced with a Tubus Cargo Evo rack at virtually no additional weight increase.
Personally I found the Wildcat handlebar harness difficult to tension and it needed frequent adjustment to prevent contact with the front tyre on rough descents. In honesty it was probably overburdened with a 20 litre dry bag, something with more structure such as the Revelate Designs Sweet Roll may have been a better option.
Like many others before me the Salsa Anything Cages suffered stress factures at the attachment point and I patched these up with zip ties as a short term fix. The Salsa Anything Cage 2 looks a stouter option going forward.
South America
The Himalayas provided a great testing platform for the lightweight set up I intended to use in South America emphasising the need for longevity, durability and where possible field repair.
Bolstering my sleeping bag to something warmer, and adding a few extra books in order to learn Spanish I needed a bit more room in South America and followed Cass’ lead in using a Carradice Saddle Bag as a handlebar bag pairing this with a Salsa Minimalist Rack.
The Salsa Anything Cages were replaced with standard water bottle cages.
Being local to Carradice I was able to go over to their factory in Nelson. David patched my Long Flap Camper and customised one of their Super C saddlebags whilst I waited, just the day before I left for South America. Nothing like leaving things until the last minute!
After Sales
Not many bike reviews come with a comment on the bike shop that built the bike but Rich and Shona are specially deserving of a mention.
Keep Pedalling’s after sales service is simply ace. They have got replacement parts out to me in double quick time. Never failing to raise a smile on their arrival.
If you are UK based and reading this with a view to building a new bike for future adventures, I have no hesitation in giving Keep Pedalling a massive thumbs up.
Meet Mara
Many keep asking me the name of my bike. Until recently it was the bike with no name.
But at the insistence of one of my ship mates from Antartica, I’m happy to reveal my bike is now called Mara!
Hindsight
Only after travelling by bike for a prolonged time to do you get a feel for things you would do differently the next time.
Mara has proved a stellar ripio munching machine and equally at home on asphalt but the bike industry moves at a great pace and a year is a long time.
Below are a few thoughts.
Saddle | Replace Brooks Swift with Brooks Cambium requiring less care in wet weather. |
Drivetrain | Replace standard chain with Gates Belt Drive |
Front Hub | Replace with Schmidt SON Dynamo Hub for lighting and charging capabilities. |
Fat bikes continue to prove themselves as capable touring bikes thanks to the likes of Joe, Kurt and now Cass.
The release of the Surly ECR a 29er+ further adds to the list of available options. Skyler took his for a spin down the Carretera this year.
14 Comments
Ben
22/04/2014Nice writeup and very nice build. The Ogre looks a very versatile machine. I’m currently toying with either an Ogre or the new Karate Monkey OPS, although I would be using it for general Singletrack purposes not bikepacking so I want a front suspension fork. How do you like the Jones bar? I can see how it would be nice for long-distance touring but wonder how it is for offroad/singletrack.
Mike
22/04/2014Hey Ben
I doubt you would go wrong with either. The versatility of the Ogre is awesome!
In terms of the Jones I love them. The first few weeks i was smiling from ear to ear, the aesthetics are a bit out there but in terms of comfort and handling they really come in to their own once you have the bike packed up.
Combined with the Ergons they really are a winning combination.
jamo who else
22/04/2014Fur-q you posh bike boy , makes my ungrades to the Big Blue Gyro sounds megre ! Love the posts , not too inspired just to jump on a plane and give you a big hug !
Just enjoyed a mega couple of weeks riding the sweest Calder single track money can’t buy the weather has broken today . The trails have been mega , the bluebells are out and I’ll send you a very funny you clip of me not quite nailing steep steps in Copley Woods soon !
Keep the wheels turning
Jamo xxx
Mike
23/04/2014Hey up!
Glad to hear you and the big blue Gyro and getting some and you are enjoying the posts.
Plenty of adventures to be had up north. Who knows!?
Big hugs x
Cass
23/04/2014Nice review! Hope you see you and Mara on the road.
The Son gets a definite thumbs up from me. And a Gates belt drive… definitely on the wishlist.
Mike
23/04/2014Thanks Cass!
Likewise I hope to meet the mighty El Ponderosa at some point on this trip too.
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Cujo
07/07/2014I also have an Ogre, much like yours but derailleur instead of Rohloff. I also love it. Mine is named Grendel.
The Epileptic Goat
19/12/2014I bought my Surly Ogre of Rich and Shona too. I changed some of the components and had custom paint. The bike is solid and the Shimano XTR is better than the Campagnolo on my Bianchi. I think all I have directly from Surly are the frame, forks, discs,handlebars and saddle. I chose the rest and Rich built it, including the wheels. Am going to change the handlebars and the seat. There’s nothing with them, I just want to dumb down even more. The bike has no badges or stickers at all, it’s naked!
Mike
25/12/2014A fine choice sir!
The Ogre is a great bike I am sure you will be really happy with it. Enjoy!
Barry
25/12/2014Could I use my Ogre for cross country events? I’d like to put front suspension on for the events too!
Mike
26/12/2014The Ogre rides pretty well unloaded as a straight up mountain bike when I have used it for side trips.
You won’t win any races with it but it will be fine for cross country events. Stick an 80mm suspension fork on and you will have a more than adequate mountain bike.
Stephen Boyd
23/04/2016Can a gates belt be fitted to an ogre?
Mike
20/05/2016Sure, the Ogre can be fitted with a Gate belt drive. It requires a custom modification to the frame so best to speak to the importer for Gates in your local country along with a local framebuilder.